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    Opinions or Truth...Which Will It Be?

    Opinions or Truth...Which Will It Be?

    I believe there is much confusion today in the church because so many are mixing their own opinions with the message of truth. Even when dreams/visions are shared, many will voice their "thoughts" or "opinions" on what they believe different parts of that dream or vision mean or "could mean". None of these are being presented as interpretations given by the Holy Spirit and received through prayer. They are just being "tossed out" to see what happens. It is, at best, a haphazard approach NOT ENDORSED through the Word of God, the Bible.

    To address this, let us first look at what an "opinion" really is:
    opinion |əˈpinyənnoun: a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge: I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance | that, in my opinion, is dead right.• the beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing: the changing climate of opinion.• (opinion ofan estimation of the quality or worth of someone or something: I had a higher opinion of myself than I deserved.• a formal statement of advice by an expert on a professional matter: seeking a second opinion from a specialist.
    As you can see in this dictionary definition of this word, the source of an opinion is strictly from a person's point of view or even that of a majority. They may "seem" right from those who base their judgment of such things upon their own ability to discern good from evil and declare the opinion as "good".

    God, however, does not look upon the opinions or thoughts of men as something to be considered. For the thoughts of a man's heart is evil continuously.
    Genesis 6:5 (NKJV) 5 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
    It is that reliance upon one's own judgment, one's own understanding, that brings the fruit of death.
    Jeremiah 10:23 (NKJV) 23 O LORD, I know the way of man is not in himself; It is not in man who walks to direct his own steps.
    If we have not put on the cross of Christ, all that we walked in before we found faith in Him will serve to hinder our walk. If we do not pick up our cross and allow Him to transform us into the image of Christ, are we then not finding ourselves despising the cross of Christ and trampling upon the Son of God who died and rose again to deliver us from walking in the darkness of our own counsel? Yet, many today continue to actively walk in the counsel of their own minds and do not seek the mind of Christ in all matters regarding life and the understanding of life.

    I have witnessed many who freely gave their own opinions as to what someone else's dreams mean and the various parts of that dream. These have no fear of God as they express their own "thoughts" or "opinions" as to what they believe those parts of the dream may mean. None agree with the other. They all have their own perspectives and understanding. They all project what they believe the dream may be saying and they do this without going to the Lord in prayer to seek His interpretation.

    If the dream/vision is given by the Spirit of the Lord, then only He can give the true meaning.
    Genesis 40:8 (NKJV) 8 And they said to him, “We each have had a dream, and there is no interpreter of it.” So Joseph said to them, “Do not interpretations belong to God? Tell them to me, please.”
    There were two colors mentioned in a dream and many tried to understand the meaning of those colors according to an interpretation chart created by a prophet of God named John Paul Jackson. He taught that these were only to be used as a guideline and not hard and fast rules of interpretation and yet, many still try to "decipher" dreams through these charts and as a result, come up with various kinds of meanings and understandings.

    I mentioned this to those doing this and will mention it here. All interpretations of dreams and/or visions come from the One who gave them. No chart or guideline can be used as a substitute to the hearing of the truth which is reserved for God only. As well meaning as John Paul Jackson intended, to help develop the prophetic gifting and anointing in those so called, all materials developed for his prophetic course was intended to "point the way" to the Holy Spirit and NOT be a substitute.

    Would God give someone instructions to allow men to use that vehicle (charts) so that they will not "need" to ask God for the answers? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Men, whose hearts are still not circumcised, still want to be in control. This desire to rely on and trust their own counsel is a major sign that they are not walking according to the Spirit of God but are still walking in the darkness of their own counsel. Look at what God thinks about this:
    Isaiah 30:1-3 (NKJV) 1 “Woe to the rebellious children,” says the LORD,
    “Who take counsel, but not of Me,
    And who devise plans, but not of My Spirit,
    That they may add sin to sin;
    2 Who walk to go down to Egypt,
    And have not asked My advice,
    To strengthen themselves in the strength of Pharaoh,
    And to trust in the shadow of Egypt!
    3 Therefore the strength of Pharaoh
    Shall be your shame,
    And trust in the shadow of Egypt
    Shall be your humiliation.
    "Who take counsel, but not of Me." What an indictment against those who still are trying to use written materials to determine the mind of the Spirit as revealed through dreams and visions. There was one fellow who told me in defense of all those who I saw as "guessing" the meaning of the various colors, ” saying, "my assumption is that most pray for guidance when seeking an interpretation. We should be careful that we do not just dismiss their interpretations as a random guess.”

    My response to this: "It is your assumption that most pray for guidance. If this were true, there would not be such an “array” of possible answers. Is not there just ONE Holy Spirit and is there also just ONE truth? He does not “play” with the truth but it is the knowledge of the truth that makes us free. YES, these are just “guessing”." There can be only ONE correct interpretation, the one provided by the same Holy Spirit who gave the dream/vision in the first place. There cannot be variations. There CAN be a different perspective as long as the overall message is not changed.  We are instructed in God's word that we are not to add to nor subtract from God's word. This instruction and warning is found in both the Old Testament and the New Testament.

    One of the most unwelcome views is the one that states what I am stating in this message today. It condemns all the works of the flesh to which so many still rely upon. The question about the giving of opinions versus seeking the Spirit of the Lord for what He says, comes down to whether you are still walking in the counsel of your own mind and in this way, still eating the fruit of that forbidden tree, the knowledge of good and evil or have you forsaken your way and follow only what the Spirit of the Lord is saying.

    If you are still giving your "opinion" about various topics, are you not still walking in rebellion to the Spirit of the Lord? Have you not yet learned that it was your opinions that caused you to stray and walk in darkness? Only the Word of the Lord brings life. All others words that do not come from the Spirit of the Lord bring death. The bible warns that by your words you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned. If this is true, and it is, then how much greater care should be give to what we say and from where we say it?

    Life and death are in the power of the tongue and those who love death, eat of death and those who love life, eat of life. If our words are from us, then only death can come. If our words are from the Spirit of the Lord as He gives us what to say, then they will always produce life. Speaking what the Spirit is saying will never lead to death but will always produce what God intended.
    Isaiah 55:11 (NKJV) 11 So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth;
    It shall not return to Me void,
    But it shall accomplish what I please,
    And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.
    In light of this truth, let us endeavor not to offer our own opinions or thoughts on any given matter but to seek the Lord to learn what HE says and let His word to us be that which comes out of our mouths, whether we speak them or write them.

    Jerry Sundberg

    Soon after I received the Lord in 1976, I started receiving prophetic visions and warnings about the future of the church and the United States. I share my visions on my Hidden Manna websites and offer free of charge my two ebooks entitled “Hidden Manna” and “Hidden Manna 2”.

    Website: Hidden Manna

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    9 comments :

    1. We're you aware that the last church mentioned in Revelation, Laodicea, comes from 2 words meaning people's opinions or people's judgements. This is the church where Jesus is on the outside caliing to whoever will listen.

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    2. No, I was not aware of that. Thank you for sharing that tidbit. I will research it and see what the Lord may want me to say about it. It may come as a separate message or I may incorporate it into this one. We shall see. But thanks for sharing that with me Tony.

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    3. Perhaps you can share with me your resource for that definition? You can email me if you wish at jerry.sundberg@me.com

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    4. Also, He says to those same people, "19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.
      (Revelation 3:19 NKJVS)". I have been used of God to rebuke and correct many who have the same attitude as shown in this church in Revelations. Oftentimes, when I try to show them the truth, they are offended and say I am not correcting them in "love". At no time was I impatient with them nor was I rude or short. On the contrary, they were the ones being very disrespectful and when they cannot "win their argument" begin to assassinate my character. By this time is when the Holy Spirit tells me to withdraw from them as they have hardened their heart against His word and will not receive instruction from Him. I can't tell you how many I've been sent to over the years to speak to those who can fit the description of the church of Laodicea. They all have their own opinion and do not care whether it is biblically based or not. So sad. Many people and many churches I've seen the name "Ichabod" on their doors. I remember a time that I pleaded with the Lord not to send me anymore to these people. It was always hard because He would give me His love for them and they would crucify me with their words and their actions time and again. I wanted to be used of the Lord to speak comforting words, words of encouragement and affirmation and this He allowed me to do for a season and from time to time but mostly I feel much like Jeremiah and Ezekiel, to tell them what the Lord is saying to them whether they choose to accept it or not. One of my recent messages is describing the cries I hear according to the Spirit of those who will be crying out to the Lord when this time of persecution comes to them. http://jerrysundberg.com/2015/11/01/cries-are-deafening/

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    5. Here is a link to a post . https://tpuccio.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/the-whole-truth-or-just-a-piece/

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    6. I was told a while ago by a man of God that if I couldn't handle rejectio then I shouldn't get into the prophetic. If you talk about holiness then you're called legalistic. Speak a word of correction and you're judging. It comes with the territory.

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    7. Well, apparently that "man of God" either wasn't a prophet or was not as well informed. Being a prophet is not by our choice. We are called to be one from birth. My entire life has been one of rejection. You never get used to it. You never get used to the loneliness. You long for friendship but not at any cost. God gives you what you need when you need it most. You can "steel" yourself to not allow the attitudes of others not affect you but then you run the chance of becoming cynical. That's what happened to my dad.

      The Lord gave me special shoes to help me. Before, walking barefoot, I would step on those sharp rocks and cut my feet. He gave me moccasins so that I wouldn't be removed completely from the sharp stones but would not get cut either. I could feel them but not to where I would be harmed. Then, later, I learned about that shield of faith that puts the fire out of those fiery darts so I can see the source. Compassion for the attackers came as a result for I could see their true condition.

      What really pains now is NOT the fiery darts being cast at me, it is the brokenness when experiencing the Lord's pain when He tries to reach out to them and they refuse because of their stubbornness and shortsightedness. I feel His broken heart. THIS is what hurts now. I am sent to provide the wounds of a friend and when they refuse, I can feel the love of the Lord for them but with His grief as well.

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    8. What he meant is that rejection is part of being called to the prophetic. No one likes rejection unless there's something wrong with them. Right after I was called to be a watchman all hell broke loose in my life. But God is faithful and He brought me through.

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    9. Indeed He does. I just wanted to show the progression. This is not to say this is how He will deal with everyone but to show His faithfulness and His compassion on those He calls, I shared what I did.

      It is has been my experience that unless one were "graced" to understand, most cannot comprehend the price being paid to become a prophet or an apostle. Many on the internet put the title apostle, prophet, pastor, teacher, evangelist before their name and insist others approach them as such. Everyone doing this is not what they wish to be called. Paul is a great example. He never spoke of himself at the beginnings of his letters as "Apostle Paul" but introduced himself as "Paul, an apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ". Paul, the name he chose for himself (or did the Lord give him this name) and then his job title/function.

      Jesus warned His disciples not to call themselves by a title but rather to call themselves "brother" or "sister" so and so. Yet, many today, because of the desire to be known and recognized, choose to give themselves these titles. They forget that God is not impressed by this and will hold them accountable for the evil that is in their heart.

      I've encountered many such ones in my travels across the internet and even long before the internet existed. None I met or conversed with were the true item. None carried within them that evidence of that calling or anointing.

      Now, I HAVE met those whom the Lord told me to anoint as apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers and evangelists. Every one of those I was sent to to confirm their calling and anointing were the humblest of people and never sought to be known of men except for their part in bringing the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ to those He sent them to. AAAAHHHH! So refreshing to be privileged by the Lord to recognize these. I am always greatly humbled at these times because He lets me see them as He sees them and I view them as far greater than myself.

      I can only imagine what it will be like to be re-united with all of those He sent me to once we are together with the Lord in heaven. What a joy and what a reunion it will be!

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